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Discussion for Today

This page is transcluded from Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025_May_2

May 2

Category:Jewish American state legislators

• Propose renaming Category:Jewish American state legislators to Category:Jewish state legislators in America Category:Jewish state legislators in the United States

Nominator's rationale: The naming is just a bit confusing on the parent category, because it can be read as American describing the individual or the state. The real problem is in the subcategories, "Jewish American state legislators in Maine", as if some state legislators in Maine might not be American, which seems at least rather unlikely. Those should just be "Jewish state legislators in Maine". Nat Gertler (talk) 00:48, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

• If renamed then to Category:Jewish state legislators in the United States. But if the real problem is in the subcategories then those should be nominated. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:03, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

  Forgive me, this is a section of Wikipedia I'm not normal to and don't know the proper pattern for mass nominations. (But yes, you're right, United States is better.) -- Nat Gertler (talk) 13:27, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

  • @NatGertler: You can use the script User:Qwerfjkl/scripts/massXFD to automatically make mass nominations. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:43, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

    That seems to require a level of technical expertise and comfort which I do not have. -- Nat Gertler (talk) 16:50, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

• I'm not sure if the proposed names are better. This format follows the same as Category:African-American state legislators in Maine and so on.--User:Namiba 14:17, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

  Yes, but African-American is needed because alone, "African" suggests, well, not a specific nationality but a range of them that needs correcting with the American; "Jewish" doesn't. We have plenty of categories that start with African-American and then have a place (Start typing "Category:African-American history in" into the search box.) There appear to be no categories that start "Catholic American" and the only one that starts Muslim American is Category:Muslim Americans, and doesn't have another place name (and even then, is a dead category holder, telling you to go look at American Muslims instead.) Looking at categories that start with "Jewish American", we have things like Category:Jewish-American history by city, but if you look at the subcategories there where locations are actually named, the "American" is dropped; they're in the form of "History of the Jews in Natchez, Mississippi". -- Nat Gertler (talk) 14:46, 24 April 2025 (UTC) Adding: Oh, here's a good example: Category:LGBTQ state legislators of the United States, not LGBTQ-American. -- Nat Gertler (talk) 14:51, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

  • Ok, that makes sense. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:43, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

  @NatGertler: do you want me to tag all of the subcategories? Best, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:14, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

  If you could, that would be great. -- Nat Gertler (talk) 01:31, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Tagging all subcategories.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:30, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

• Propose renaming Category:Jewish American state legislators in Alabama to Category:Jewish state legislators in Alabama
• Propose renaming Category:Jewish American state legislators in Alaska to Category:Jewish state legislators in Alaska
• Propose renaming Category:Jewish American state legislators in Arizona to Category:Jewish state legislators in Arizona
• Propose renaming Category:Jewish American state legislators in California to Category:Jewish state legislators in California
• Propose renaming Category:Jewish American state legislators in Colorado to Category:Jewish state legislators in Colorado
• Propose renaming Category:Jewish American state legislators in Connecticut to Category:Jewish state legislators in Connecticut
• Propose renaming Category:Jewish American state legislators in Florida to Category:Jewish state legislators in Florida
• Propose renaming Category:Jewish American state legislators in Georgia (U.S. state) to Category:Jewish state legislators in Georgia (U.S. state)
• Propose renaming Category:Jewish American state legislators in Hawaii to Category:Jewish state legislators in Hawaii
• Propose renaming Category:Jewish American state legislators in Illinois to Category:Jewish state legislators in Illinois
• Propose renaming Category:Jewish American state legislators in Kentucky to Category:Jewish state legislators in Kentucky
• Propose renaming Category:Jewish American state legislators in Louisiana to Category:Jewish state legislators in Louisiana
• Propose renaming Category:Jewish American state legislators in Maine to Category:Jewish state legislators in Maine
• Propose renaming Category:Jewish American state legislators in Maryland to Category:Jewish state legislators in Maryland
• Propose renaming Category:Jewish American state legislators in Massachusetts to Category:Jewish state legislators in Massachusetts
• Propose renaming Category:Jewish American state legislators in Michigan to Category:Jewish state legislators in Michigan
• Propose renaming Category:Jewish American state legislators in Minnesota to Category:Jewish state legislators in Minnesota
• Propose renaming Category:Jewish American state legislators in Mississippi to Category:Jewish state legislators in Mississippi
• Propose renaming Category:Jewish American state legislators in Missouri to Category:Jewish state legislators in Missouri
• Propose renaming Category:Jewish American state legislators in Nevada to Category:Jewish state legislators in Nevada
• Propose renaming Category:Jewish American state legislators in New Jersey to Category:Jewish state legislators in New Jersey
• Propose renaming Category:Jewish American state legislators in New Mexico to Category:Jewish state legislators in New Mexico
• Propose renaming Category:Jewish American state legislators in New York (state) to Category:Jewish state legislators in New York (state)
• Propose renaming Category:Jewish American state legislators in Ohio to Category:Jewish state legislators in Ohio
• Propose renaming Category:Jewish American state legislators in Pennsylvania to Category:Jewish state legislators in Pennsylvania
• Propose renaming Category:Jewish American state legislators in South Dakota to Category:Jewish state legislators in South Dakota
• Propose renaming Category:Jewish American state legislators in Texas to Category:Jewish state legislators in Texas
• Propose renaming Category:Jewish American state legislators in Utah to Category:Jewish state legislators in Utah
• Propose renaming Category:Jewish American state legislators in Vermont to Category:Jewish state legislators in Vermont
• Propose renaming Category:Jewish American state legislators in Virginia to Category:Jewish state legislators in Virginia
• Propose renaming Category:Jewish American state legislators in West Virginia to Category:Jewish state legislators in West Virginia
• Propose renaming Category:Jewish American state legislators in Wisconsin to Category:Jewish state legislators in Wisconsin

No opinion on the merits. Best, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:34, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

Category:Telegram channels of Russia

• Propose renaming Category:Telegram channels of Russia to Category:Russian Telegram channels

Nominator's rationale: To correspond with Category:Russian news websites and similar. – GnocchiFan (talk) 16:43, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

But they are not necessarily “Russian.” Channels in this category are related to Russia, but they do not necessarily have to be Russian (also another case of "of Russia": Category:Mass media companies of Russia). --MocnyDuham (talk) 16:47, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

Note: 'of Russia' makes it clear it's from the country. 'Russian...' could mean any Russian-language channels. The distinction is subtle, but important. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 04:27, 25 April 2025 (UTC)

• Support per nom. After that the category can possibly have more names. Azuredivay (talk) 19:15, 27 April 2025 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: It has been pointed out that this would entail a change in scope of the category. Should the category be renamed and have its scope changed?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:07, 2 May 2025 (UTC)